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at the irs. it takes a lot to stun me but that stunned me. here's a piece of advice i will give. if the folks like lois lerner and others would have spent more time working on the backlog, more time working on their case load and less time targeting groups and less time trying to overturn supreme court decisions they didn't agree with, maybe morale would be better. and maybe their backlogs would be lessened. >> would the gentleman yield? >> i'd be thrilled to. >> commissioner, i want to maybe summarize what the gentleman was asking you with a question. do you have full faith and trust that your ig is doing a thorough investigation at the same level as would be done if you were doing it as the commissioner? >> i do. i said earlier, i have a lot of confidence in the inspector general. they have far more capacity in some of these areas. they have 15 people working on this. i'm very comfortable and confident that they are doing a thorough job, and i have told them we'll do whatever -- >> so at least
at the irs. it takes a lot to stun me but that stunned me. here's a piece of advice i will give. if the folks like lois lerner and others would have spent more time working on the backlog, more time working on their case load and less time targeting groups and less time trying to overturn supreme court decisions they didn't agree with, maybe morale would be better. and maybe their backlogs would be lessened. >> would the gentleman yield? >> i'd be thrilled to. >> commissioner,...
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the irs. would that the kind of document you would preserve? >> again, our protocol is if there's going to be an investigation, if there's a serious issue raised, we protect and preserve documents. wrun one of the things is we need to have an e-mail system of record so it would be easier to protect official records, preserve them and it would be easier to search them. we should not have to spend. $18 million answering straight forward questions for documents, but that's the system we have. the constraints on the budget has been for the past few years. we should have an e-mail system that's more searchable and a system of record. >> thank you. >> i think his question cuts right to the chase. it was unnoticed there was a problem and suddenly her computer crashes, but it's worst than that. they identified 82 custodians of information relevant to the investigation. now we know from mr. cane's testimony up to 20 may u have had computer hard drive crashes. so this is way beyond the 3% to 5% that the
the irs. would that the kind of document you would preserve? >> again, our protocol is if there's going to be an investigation, if there's a serious issue raised, we protect and preserve documents. wrun one of the things is we need to have an e-mail system of record so it would be easier to protect official records, preserve them and it would be easier to search them. we should not have to spend. $18 million answering straight forward questions for documents, but that's the system we...
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the irs. i did not have much time to prepare. but i prepared to come and tell you about -- >> you didn't think the to ask about the fact that the white house knew in april and the people's house doesn't know until june? you didn't think there was a duty to figure out who gave you the information, who you may have shared that information with? seems like everyone knows this stuff still it's up to congress. we don't get it till months later. >> i'd like to be as helpful as i can with what i knew. >> it would have been helpful if you had the answers to those questions. do you know if the white house council's office that lois lerner's e-mails were lost, do you know if the white house council's office told the fbi and told the justice department? >> so what i can tell you is what i knew when i was at the irs. i wasn't at the white house. >> you work at the white house counsel's office. they knew this information in april. we didn't know it till june. there's a two-month time difference there. in t
the irs. i did not have much time to prepare. but i prepared to come and tell you about -- >> you didn't think the to ask about the fact that the white house knew in april and the people's house doesn't know until june? you didn't think there was a duty to figure out who gave you the information, who you may have shared that information with? seems like everyone knows this stuff still it's up to congress. we don't get it till months later. >> i'd like to be as helpful as i can with...
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outside the irs. then on may 17th, 2013, the inspector general was asked before a ways and means committee, quote, did you find any evidence of political motivation in the selection of tax exemption applicants? his response, he responded, quoit, we did not, sir. after interviewing 42 employees in the irs, treasury department and doj and receiving more than 680,000 pages of documents, the committee has not found any evidence of white house involvement, or political bias. despite these facts, republicans continue to invent partisan election season conspiracy theories. one of the latest allegations is that the supreme court's decision into the citizens united prompted president obama, democratic members of congress, and the irs, doj and other agencies to launch a governmentwide effort of targeting conservative groups. it severely undermines our campaign laws allowing dollars to drown out the voices of average americans, republican attempts to characterize these concerns as evidence of political pressure
outside the irs. then on may 17th, 2013, the inspector general was asked before a ways and means committee, quote, did you find any evidence of political motivation in the selection of tax exemption applicants? his response, he responded, quoit, we did not, sir. after interviewing 42 employees in the irs, treasury department and doj and receiving more than 680,000 pages of documents, the committee has not found any evidence of white house involvement, or political bias. despite these facts,...
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the irs, speak in strident tones, make demands on the irs? answer was, no. by jack smith. and then the question was, are you aware of anyone at the department of justice placing pressure on the irs to influence the outcome of the 2010 elections and the answer was, no. and i'm going to put that same question in front of you, mr. cole. are you aware of anybody at the department of justice screaming at anybody at the irs to fix citizens united or put any kind of pressure on the irs? >> no, mr. cartright. not at all. this is not something we would be doing. we're looking for criminal cases to be made or not. and that's it. >> not aware of any screaming? >> no screaming. >> and you didn't do any screaming yourself i take it? >> i did not. >> thank you, mr. cole. i yield back. >> mr. cole, when the president of the united states makes a statement, a speech, does that have meaning, bearing, influence? >> on a criminal investigation -- >> when the president talks, he does an interview, givers speeches all the time. sometimes talks in a way designed t
the irs, speak in strident tones, make demands on the irs? answer was, no. by jack smith. and then the question was, are you aware of anyone at the department of justice placing pressure on the irs to influence the outcome of the 2010 elections and the answer was, no. and i'm going to put that same question in front of you, mr. cole. are you aware of anybody at the department of justice screaming at anybody at the irs to fix citizens united or put any kind of pressure on the irs? >> no,...
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the irs. follow where imad? >> it has nothing to do with the groups targeted by the irs. that is not correct. whether or not false statement groups could be brought -- >> they are the same groups. trust me. ms. lerner indicated that someone else with the iris would follow-up with succession, but that follow-up did not occur. why did that follow-up not occur? >> i don't know. >> let me give you a reason why i think it might not have occurred. because this correspondence, this meeting took place on may 8 2013. you know what happened two days later? >> yes, i do. >> what happened two days later? >> ms. lerner gave a speech at an aba conference and talked about the issue. >> where she explained to the whole world that the irs was caught with her hand in the cookie jar and were targeting these groups. that's why the follow-up did not occur. two days before, the very lawyer who met with lois lerner in 2010 got the database in the format they want it, two days before ms. -- jump ahead three years lat
the irs. follow where imad? >> it has nothing to do with the groups targeted by the irs. that is not correct. whether or not false statement groups could be brought -- >> they are the same groups. trust me. ms. lerner indicated that someone else with the iris would follow-up with succession, but that follow-up did not occur. why did that follow-up not occur? >> i don't know. >> let me give you a reason why i think it might not have occurred. because this correspondence,...
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>> the we is the irs. people had talked to everyone in the agency to ensure that in the course of our several months of looking for the backup takes -- >> so we is the royal we? speaking on behalf of the entire irs? how about the word confirmed? you confirmed the backup tapes no longer exist. >> what i read that, i ask the question and was told -- >> my home? -- >> -- by whom? >> i do not remember. there were a lot. somebody went back and looked and made sure any backup tapes that had existed had been recycled. >> are you still confirmed? >> at this point, i have no basis to not be confirmed. the irs advised me they have been looking at tapes. i do not know -- >> confirmed is a pretty strong word. are you still confirmed that no backup tapes exist? >> at this point i know the ig is looking and he has not found anything, so as far as i know -- >> >> i'm glad you mentioned the ig. i find it vexing. once the ig is involved, nobody else can do anything. that is not supported by the law. can there be a criminal
>> the we is the irs. people had talked to everyone in the agency to ensure that in the course of our several months of looking for the backup takes -- >> so we is the royal we? speaking on behalf of the entire irs? how about the word confirmed? you confirmed the backup tapes no longer exist. >> what i read that, i ask the question and was told -- >> my home? -- >> -- by whom? >> i do not remember. there were a lot. somebody went back and looked and made sure...
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at the irs. and i'm going to invite your attention to the testimony of jack smith, who as you know is the chief of the doj public integrity section. this post has been taken on may 29, 2014. representative jordan was present at a good read to you a brief quote from that. question, and this is a question to mr. smith. if you direct your attention to the second sentence of the second paragraph below the block quote, quote by encouraging the irs that the vigilant and possible campaign finance crimes by 501(c)(4) groups, the department was certainly among the entities quote screaming, unquote, at the irs to do something in the wake of citizens united before the 2010 election. and the question was, are you aware of the department, quote, screaming at the irs to do something in the wake of citizens united before the 2010 election? and the chief of the doj public integrity section sadly, no. next question was, at the october 8, 2010 meeting, did anyone at the department raise their voice at the irs, spe
at the irs. and i'm going to invite your attention to the testimony of jack smith, who as you know is the chief of the doj public integrity section. this post has been taken on may 29, 2014. representative jordan was present at a good read to you a brief quote from that. question, and this is a question to mr. smith. if you direct your attention to the second sentence of the second paragraph below the block quote, quote by encouraging the irs that the vigilant and possible campaign finance...
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the irs is frying hard drives, the v.a. is drowning in paper. is there any record keeping medium that the government could use that could work for them? microfiche? we'll do it. stone tablets? we'll do it. we could take a page out of the ancient greeks. weave all of our important information into an epic poem and pass down from generations over a federal archival oral tradition from bard to apprentice, but you probably lose that page. unless, wait a minute, i know what's going on here. you're tired of governing us, aren't you? and so you're kind of acting like assholes so we break up with you. well, look, i know we're not perfect as constituents and we've been in this relationship for 200 years, probably take you a little bit for granted. we want everything and don't want to pay for anything. [laughter] every yeardown birthday we throw a huge party and pretend it's for you, but it's really just chance for us to get [bleeped] up and stare at the sky between 9:00 p.m. and 9:25. look, the point is this, government. no matter what you get right, we'
the irs is frying hard drives, the v.a. is drowning in paper. is there any record keeping medium that the government could use that could work for them? microfiche? we'll do it. stone tablets? we'll do it. we could take a page out of the ancient greeks. weave all of our important information into an epic poem and pass down from generations over a federal archival oral tradition from bard to apprentice, but you probably lose that page. unless, wait a minute, i know what's going on here. you're...
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from the irs. and much of it is based on not getting prompt answers to questions but much of it is based on the systematic failure to retain documents for a period of time that the american people assume the documents will always be kept at. i want to thank you. i believe this panel was unique in that it really had people that you ordinarily wouldn't see next to each other, but it played well together for a problem we're dealing with and mr. ferrio, mr. webster, for a problem we're going to deal with for many years. i now recognize the ranking member. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i just wanted to say, i was listening to you -- first of all, i thank you for being here. mr. chairman, i'll be very brief. ms. o'connor, i know the irs employees are watching this. and i want them to know that we appreciate their efforts. when i listen to what you were saying, before committees and what you had to do. these employees are working very, very hard. i just want to thank them for what they do. and i know it is
from the irs. and much of it is based on not getting prompt answers to questions but much of it is based on the systematic failure to retain documents for a period of time that the american people assume the documents will always be kept at. i want to thank you. i believe this panel was unique in that it really had people that you ordinarily wouldn't see next to each other, but it played well together for a problem we're dealing with and mr. ferrio, mr. webster, for a problem we're going to...
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routine interactions between the irs and doj also involve the irs office of chief council, which reviews all criminal tax cases developed by our criminal investigation division before those cases are recommended for prosecution. in addition, when the department of justice' tax division litigates a civil matter, chief counsel attorneys are involved, elaborating on the arguments and positions taken. i may now turn to an update of the effort the irs has made to cooperation with the investigators into the use of inappropriate criteria to evaluate applications for tax exempt status under 501(c)(4), the revenue code. these include four investigations by congress, one by the department of justice and one by the inspector general. added to that has been the recent new investigation by the inspector general of circumstances surrounding the crash of lois lerner's harddrive three years ago. to date, we have now produced more than 960,000 pages of unredacted documents to the tax writing committees and more than 700 thousands pages of redacted documents to the house oversight and committee, in additi
routine interactions between the irs and doj also involve the irs office of chief council, which reviews all criminal tax cases developed by our criminal investigation division before those cases are recommended for prosecution. in addition, when the department of justice' tax division litigates a civil matter, chief counsel attorneys are involved, elaborating on the arguments and positions taken. i may now turn to an update of the effort the irs has made to cooperation with the investigators...
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in this letter the irs reported the loss of e-mail records of lois lerner, the former head of irs and exempt organization division dating from 2009 to 2011 as the result of a failure of hard drive. we asked the irs to investigate the alleged disposal of records and whether it was broader than was reported in the june 13th, 2014 letter. we asked for a response within 30 days. on a daily basis, professionals worked to ensure records management policies and practices protect the rights of the government and citizens and identify the permanently valuable records that document the national experience. in november of 2011, the president issued a memorandum on managing government records, which resulted in issuing the management government records directive in august 2012. goals to require electronic record keeping to ensure transparency, efficiency and accountability and demonstrate compliance with statutes and regulations. there are a number of activities associated with these goals but the action is by the end of 2016 federal agencies must manage all e-mail records in an electronic format
in this letter the irs reported the loss of e-mail records of lois lerner, the former head of irs and exempt organization division dating from 2009 to 2011 as the result of a failure of hard drive. we asked the irs to investigate the alleged disposal of records and whether it was broader than was reported in the june 13th, 2014 letter. we asked for a response within 30 days. on a daily basis, professionals worked to ensure records management policies and practices protect the rights of the...
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of targeting by the irs. while i know you're frustrated by the fact that i cannot at this time disclose any specifics about the investigation, i do pledge to you that when our investigation is completed, we will provide congress with detailed information about the facts we uncovered, and the conclusions we reached in this matter. thank you, mr. chairman. i will now be happy to answer your questions. >> think you. the gentleman from florida is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. we learned in congress on june 13, 2014, that two years worth of lois lerner's e-mails were missing. the irs would not produce those. when did the justice department learned about that fact is because i think we learned about it after that, from the press accounts that were in the paper following the irs is notification to the congress. >> so you actually read about it in the press that nobody in the irs ever went to the justice department to give you a heads-up knowing that you are conducting the investigation that some evidence t
of targeting by the irs. while i know you're frustrated by the fact that i cannot at this time disclose any specifics about the investigation, i do pledge to you that when our investigation is completed, we will provide congress with detailed information about the facts we uncovered, and the conclusions we reached in this matter. thank you, mr. chairman. i will now be happy to answer your questions. >> think you. the gentleman from florida is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman....
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sources of --ails in the irs will stop the irs. there are lots of recipients and senders and we are looking at many if her and sources of those e-mails and it did not become apparent based on that that there were anti-missing e-mails before that. -- if you are investigating an entity and that agency has a duty to preserve evidence, correct? >> that is correct. that agency head is responsible for making sure they comply with the justice department? >> i imagine the agency head ultimately bears responsibility but there are people further down who do the work. of in the course investigating a case, if you are investigating an agency or itity and there is evidence was destroyed in the agency knows they are under investigation, and don't they have a duty to report that to the justice department says that you know the evidence has gone missing? >> we would like to know that information. it depends when they learn of it. it is certainly information we would like to have. makef you are in court and a representation to a judge, even if it i
sources of --ails in the irs will stop the irs. there are lots of recipients and senders and we are looking at many if her and sources of those e-mails and it did not become apparent based on that that there were anti-missing e-mails before that. -- if you are investigating an entity and that agency has a duty to preserve evidence, correct? >> that is correct. that agency head is responsible for making sure they comply with the justice department? >> i imagine the agency head...
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you brought up the irs. i love this op-ed out of the journal about the fact that the irs is handling obamacare. we know what a mess the irs is and how they are politically motivated. is the irs going to be deciding if i can get that knee replacement, if my grandmother can stay alive? is it the irs who is deciding and are they going to decide based on my political motivation? >> the irs decides whether it's tax deductible or not. and the irs has more to say right now in treasury about what's an improved medical device, what's an approved production or secondary prevention for drugs in the future than at any other time in history and they're understaffed to do this. the critical problem with this is these things have been laid at the treasury's door steps without add kwanly thinking them through and that's going to slow everything down and make a mess. >> no one would have thought the irs was going to be the agency at the center of this scandal, as well. but indeed, it is the irs and it's all of these federal
you brought up the irs. i love this op-ed out of the journal about the fact that the irs is handling obamacare. we know what a mess the irs is and how they are politically motivated. is the irs going to be deciding if i can get that knee replacement, if my grandmother can stay alive? is it the irs who is deciding and are they going to decide based on my political motivation? >> the irs decides whether it's tax deductible or not. and the irs has more to say right now in treasury about...
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the irs. i will invite your attention to the testimony of jack smith, who as you know is the chief of the doj public integrity section. this was testimony taken on may 20 9, 2014. representative jordan was present. i will read a brief quote from that. a question to mr. smith. "if you direct your attention to the second sentence of the second paragraph load the block, by encouraging the irs to be vigilant and possible campaign-finance crimes by 501c-4 groups, they were among one of the entity screaming at the iris to do something in the wake of citizens united before the 2010 election." was, "are youon aware of the department screaming at the irs to do something in the wake of citizens united before the 2010 election?" chief of the doj public integrity section said, "no." will, "at theion october 8, 2010 meeting, did anybody at the department raise their voice at the iris, speak and strident tones, make demands of the irs?" "no," by jack smith. and then, "are you aware of anyone at the departme
the irs. i will invite your attention to the testimony of jack smith, who as you know is the chief of the doj public integrity section. this was testimony taken on may 20 9, 2014. representative jordan was present. i will read a brief quote from that. a question to mr. smith. "if you direct your attention to the second sentence of the second paragraph load the block, by encouraging the irs to be vigilant and possible campaign-finance crimes by 501c-4 groups, they were among one of the...
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the irs." in other words, russell george, the inspector general, whose report brought here before this committee started the firestorm that has been raging for more than a year and a half, his report said flat-out that these irs people were not influenced by any organization or individual outside the irs -- >> will the gentleman yield? >> i yield. >> one of the reasons is because we didn't have the e-mails from the justice department and lois lerner. we got those because of foia request. other than that we would never have had mr. pilger and mr. smith in for deposition. mr. george didn't have that information in his hand. >> and that -- let let the witness answer a question here. mr. cole, are you aware of any information to the effect that the inspector general's statement there is incorrect? >> no. the understanding i have of the interactions between the justice department and the irs on those two meetings was that the irs in the first one said there's really nothing we can do here and nothin
the irs." in other words, russell george, the inspector general, whose report brought here before this committee started the firestorm that has been raging for more than a year and a half, his report said flat-out that these irs people were not influenced by any organization or individual outside the irs -- >> will the gentleman yield? >> i yield. >> one of the reasons is because we didn't have the e-mails from the justice department and lois lerner. we got those because...
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, officials at the irs. we'll talk more about this breaking news later in the show. >>> president obama wrapping up a speech on the economy in austin, texas. it happened just moments ago. after attending a fund-raiser there this morning. it's just a few hundred miles away from a border crisis that the president says he does not need to see. instead, the president tried to shift the blame to republicans in congress saying they're the ones standing in the way of approving the $4 billion he wants to fix the problem. >> this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in in photo ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. and those who say i should visit the border, when you ask what should we be doing, they're giving us suggestions embodied in legislation that i already sent to congress. >> republican senators ted cruz of texas joins me now live from capitol hill. so, senator, it's your fault. it's the republicans fault. >> well, unfortunately that has been the pattern of the obama presidency is everyth
, officials at the irs. we'll talk more about this breaking news later in the show. >>> president obama wrapping up a speech on the economy in austin, texas. it happened just moments ago. after attending a fund-raiser there this morning. it's just a few hundred miles away from a border crisis that the president says he does not need to see. instead, the president tried to shift the blame to republicans in congress saying they're the ones standing in the way of approving the $4 billion...
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and a federal judge giving the irs. and what would happen to the e-mails and six other officials tied to the targeting of conservative groups as one congressman files a resolution asking for learner's arrest. >> and i am eric shaun in for jon scott. >> no other groups and they are getting their day in court. taking the irs on a hearing that adjourned moments ago. and it was aimed to get a forensic expert to scour the servers to try to find the vanished emails before anything that could be incriminating is lo lost forever. >> reporter: i just spoke to our producer in the courtroom. she said that the judge wants to know what happened to lois lerner's hard drive and wants it in a sworn affidavit and he will consider it and have more on it next week. that is the cliff notes version. this is all about the suit against the irs. they found themselves multiple inquiries and a lot of scrutiny. and investigated by the fbi and a tf and ocea. and in today's hearing, thorough the vote is producing a motion to prevent destruction of
and a federal judge giving the irs. and what would happen to the e-mails and six other officials tied to the targeting of conservative groups as one congressman files a resolution asking for learner's arrest. >> and i am eric shaun in for jon scott. >> no other groups and they are getting their day in court. taking the irs on a hearing that adjourned moments ago. and it was aimed to get a forensic expert to scour the servers to try to find the vanished emails before anything that...
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time to defund the irs. that's what steve forbes says and he photograph paragraph a new twist in the irs scandal investigation. house oversight committee chair darrell issa now offering irs commissioner done koskinen a do over. chairman issa saying that koskinen's statements contrast lois lerner's. statements about missing emails. this is not the first time. house lawyers have questioned koskinen's credibility. >> commissioner, are the president's hand picked man to restore trust and accountability at the irs. >> nobody believes you. >> the american people have no reason to trust the irs or frankly the administration on this issue. >> we have a problem with you and you you have a problem with maintaining your credibility. >> i don't believe you. >> i have a long career. that's the first time anybody has said that they do not believe me. >> i don't believe you. >> that's fine. >> it's hard to love the irs. >> but it should not be hard to trust the irs. former irs commissioner mark iverson under president bush
time to defund the irs. that's what steve forbes says and he photograph paragraph a new twist in the irs scandal investigation. house oversight committee chair darrell issa now offering irs commissioner done koskinen a do over. chairman issa saying that koskinen's statements contrast lois lerner's. statements about missing emails. this is not the first time. house lawyers have questioned koskinen's credibility. >> commissioner, are the president's hand picked man to restore trust and...
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fine. >> it's hard to love the irs. >> but it should not be hard to trust the irs. former irs commissioner mark iverson under president bush 43. nice to see you, sir. >> nice to be with you, greta. >> all right. so now we have this letter from darrell issa who was the chairman of the house oversight asking the new commissioner because apparently the new commissioner testified that lois lerner kept the records, a hard copy, her lawyer says she didn't. didn't know she was supposed to. is this a serious problem or is this a distraction from going forward and trying to get to the bottom of this? >> i tend to think it's more of a distraction, if you will. it's entirely possible that somebody else was keeping the records. lois was a senior official. she had a lot to do and maybe somebody else was printing off the emails if that's what the standard was. the her here though is for me, at least, is always the failure to keep congress can apprised of what was happening with the production of the emails, greta. that's what the real mess here is, i think. there is obviously thi
fine. >> it's hard to love the irs. >> but it should not be hard to trust the irs. former irs commissioner mark iverson under president bush 43. nice to see you, sir. >> nice to be with you, greta. >> all right. so now we have this letter from darrell issa who was the chairman of the house oversight asking the new commissioner because apparently the new commissioner testified that lois lerner kept the records, a hard copy, her lawyer says she didn't. didn't know she was...
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it's not just the irs. you know, congress was also told recently they're looking into, for instance, the epa and the guy who is central to their epa investigation. they're looking into the -- >> in alaska. >> yeah. >> and one of the guys who they're most interested in who seems to have encouraged the epa to take this route, guess what? his hard drive crashed, too. >> all right. >> yeah. it's amazing. >> thank s so much. we have to take one more break. when we come back hits and misses of the week. misses of the week. [guy] i know what you're thinking- you're thinking beneful. [announcer]beneful has wholesome grains,real beef,even accents of spinach,carrots and peas. [guy] you love it so much. yes you do. but it's good for you, too. [announcer] healthful. flavorful. beneful. from purina. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to
it's not just the irs. you know, congress was also told recently they're looking into, for instance, the epa and the guy who is central to their epa investigation. they're looking into the -- >> in alaska. >> yeah. >> and one of the guys who they're most interested in who seems to have encouraged the epa to take this route, guess what? his hard drive crashed, too. >> all right. >> yeah. it's amazing. >> thank s so much. we have to take one more break. when we...
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the irs story. same kind of thing. so now they are going to the course to get some resolution and we'll see how they do. gentlemen we got to leave it there. thank you very much. >>> so there's a disturbing new message from the leader of a terror group a leader called more anti-american than osama bin laden delivering this sermon from a city america fought and gave lives for. oliver north has been there and he is despondent over this development. he joins us after this. plus, is president obama supporting a candidate for 2016? >> now, look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea, god bless. keep a pbig part of it. but you take a hunk of it and pay forward for the next kid that comes along. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident is designed to
the irs story. same kind of thing. so now they are going to the course to get some resolution and we'll see how they do. gentlemen we got to leave it there. thank you very much. >>> so there's a disturbing new message from the leader of a terror group a leader called more anti-american than osama bin laden delivering this sermon from a city america fought and gave lives for. oliver north has been there and he is despondent over this development. he joins us after this. plus, is...
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the irs has identified these people. and now almost a fourth of them may have had hard drive crashes. unbelievable. fourth, we were told that the irs was told that ms. lerner's hard drive had crashed. that's why we've continued to have hearings. that's why we have mr. koskonen back. over a month after they told congress that they lost the e-mailine e-mai e-mails, there are still unanswered questions. deputy attorney general coal told us last week that the justice department learned of the missing lois lerner e-mails from press accounts and the media. imagine that. one of the highest profile investigations in years, and the justice department has to learn about critical evidence by the central player in this investigation. they learn about that in news accounts, not directly from the internal revenue service. that's why last week, deputy attorney general cole said he would have liked to learn about the e-mails earlier and was investigating why koskonen failed to reveal. he said last week to this same committee that they a
the irs has identified these people. and now almost a fourth of them may have had hard drive crashes. unbelievable. fourth, we were told that the irs was told that ms. lerner's hard drive had crashed. that's why we've continued to have hearings. that's why we have mr. koskonen back. over a month after they told congress that they lost the e-mailine e-mai e-mails, there are still unanswered questions. deputy attorney general coal told us last week that the justice department learned of the...
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but in the wake of the irs scandal where the irs was so deceptive at targeting conservativ conservatives, i think many republicans certainly in the houseware wary of giving them power. >> if the irs says i'm delinquent on my taxes it can call up the state department and say doept let her take that trip to italy, she can't afford it. >> exactly. you might not bet a passport. the good news is you don't like these initiatives is it doesn't look like it's going to pass. the house bill is what the one is being considered. they're mainly attached to a highway funding bill. >> but why even the people who are upset about the irs's targeting of conservatives, it's admitted behavior there, why would they not want tax cheats to have to pay up? most of us pay our taxes. we don't particularly enjoy it, but we do it. and we don't want people who aren't doing it to get away with it. >> well, i think everyone doesn't want america to become greece where no one pays their taxes or pays a fraction of their taxes. >> right. >> but i think that in the wake of the last year where you had the irs being decepti
but in the wake of the irs scandal where the irs was so deceptive at targeting conservativ conservatives, i think many republicans certainly in the houseware wary of giving them power. >> if the irs says i'm delinquent on my taxes it can call up the state department and say doept let her take that trip to italy, she can't afford it. >> exactly. you might not bet a passport. the good news is you don't like these initiatives is it doesn't look like it's going to pass. the house bill...
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all of the calls in some way threaten the person receiving them with irs legal action if the phone call is not returned. >> before you get arrested. >> oh, yeah, it scared me. >> a native of the philippines, greg got the call at his castro valley home right before tax day. >> we have received a notice concerning tax evasion. before we take this matter to the federal courthouse or before you get arrested, call us back on the callback number. >> i was shocked because it was totally unexpected. >> when i first heard it, i was going, wait a minute, is this possible? >> bob got four different calls. bob works in sales at nbc bay area in a division separate from our newsroom. when he found out we were investigating, he came forward to share what his callers told him. >> i need to call them right away because i was at risk of having my wages garnished, my house repossessed and possibly arrest. >> it's the largest scam of this type that i'm aware of in my 23 years of law enforcement experience. >> jim should know. he started his career as a criminal investigator for the irs back in 1985. he's n
all of the calls in some way threaten the person receiving them with irs legal action if the phone call is not returned. >> before you get arrested. >> oh, yeah, it scared me. >> a native of the philippines, greg got the call at his castro valley home right before tax day. >> we have received a notice concerning tax evasion. before we take this matter to the federal courthouse or before you get arrested, call us back on the callback number. >> i was shocked because...
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it's not just the irs. you know, congress was also told recently they're looking into, for instance, the epa and a guy who is central to their epa investigation they're looking into the pebble mind veto in alaska. >> right. >> and one of the guys who they're most interested in who seems to encouraged the epa to take this route, guess what? his hard drive crashed, too. >> all right. >> it's amazing. >> kim, thanks so much. we'll keep following this for folks. we have to take one more break. when we come back, hits and misses of the week. it's the yoplait greek taste-off and we are asking the music city which 100-calorie strawberry greek yogurt tastes best. this one is definitely the winner. yoplait greek 100! you want to see which one yoplait greek beat? chobani yes! yoplait greek wins again. take the taste-off for yourself! you've reached the age where you know how things work. this is the age of knowing what needs to be done. so why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra
it's not just the irs. you know, congress was also told recently they're looking into, for instance, the epa and a guy who is central to their epa investigation they're looking into the pebble mind veto in alaska. >> right. >> and one of the guys who they're most interested in who seems to encouraged the epa to take this route, guess what? his hard drive crashed, too. >> all right. >> it's amazing. >> kim, thanks so much. we'll keep following this for folks. we...
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he started his career as a irs investigator for the irs in 1985. he is now deputy inspector general at the treasury inspector general's office in washington which oversees the irs. >> part of the scheme would involve the person pretend tock internal revenue service actually having some digits of your social security number. and they tell you those digits. and when that matches, a lot of times people are then inclined to believe that it actually is the irs. >> reporter: investigator says the callers tend to target immigrants and the elderly, and could likely be the work of organized crime both here and overseas. >> we protect the integrity of the internal revenue service. so naturally, an impersonation of the irs impugns the integrity of the internal revenue service. >> reporter: so many people believed the callers and send in checks that criminal investigators have tracked more than four million sent to the scammers nationwide. just since last october. and that's just those who have reported being scammed. the actual loss could be two to four times
he started his career as a irs investigator for the irs in 1985. he is now deputy inspector general at the treasury inspector general's office in washington which oversees the irs. >> part of the scheme would involve the person pretend tock internal revenue service actually having some digits of your social security number. and they tell you those digits. and when that matches, a lot of times people are then inclined to believe that it actually is the irs. >> reporter: investigator...
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the problems for the irs turning deadly. a brand new investigation about why some bplies at one office ae dying the flying object isn't what you think. first a look at our concert stage. [ male announcer ] if you're taking multiple medications, does your mouth often feel dry? a dry mouth can be a side effect of many medications but it can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath. that's why there's biotene. available as an oral rinse, toothpaste, spray or gel, biotene can provide soothing relief, and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. remember, while your medication is doing you good, a dry mouth isn't. biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth. >> it is friday july 11th, 2014. the irs ordered to explain under oath. when we finally get answers about the tea party targeting scandal. a loaded gun and a knife on board a packed plane. feel safe traveling now? >> skydiving instructor hit in the face with a shoe mid free fall. how in the world did that happen? "fox & friends first" continues right now. >> >> good morning.
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phone number to make it look like the irs toll free number on the caller id. the irs says there is one major red flag tax pay yers should be aware o. >> when you have a federal tax debt we send you a notice first. you are not going to hear from us until you have received a notice from us. we will only call after we have already sent notification from the u.s. mail. >> the irs said it does not demand money over the phone and will never ask for credit card or other financial information. the government says scammers also target immigrants, potential victims are threatened with deportation, arrests or having their utilitiesys!$u shu. threats that you will never receive from the irs. >> they look for vulnerability. and i felt very at that minute. >> another red flag, the irs says it will never initiate contact over e-mail or do any kind of financial exchange over e-mail. if you have received a phone call like this one in our story or you are suspicious of an e-mail you may have gotten, go to our website, nbc washington.com and search irs scam to find out how to re
phone number to make it look like the irs toll free number on the caller id. the irs says there is one major red flag tax pay yers should be aware o. >> when you have a federal tax debt we send you a notice first. you are not going to hear from us until you have received a notice from us. we will only call after we have already sent notification from the u.s. mail. >> the irs said it does not demand money over the phone and will never ask for credit card or other financial...
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the irs chief knew in april. but they basically wanted to just finish the investigation and be able to tell lawmakers in congress everything they knew before they moved on. and so that's why. >> now, the bigger problem here, which people don't realize is it's the judge. it's judge imette sullivan, is he not going to stand for this funny business. not like capitol hill where you sent out a letter and you never get a response or a letter and nobody shows up. judge sullivan has a reputation for demanding things. yes, he does. ted stephens case about four or five years ago. he was not shy in showing his displeasure for how that was tried. there was a special prosecutor. he accused them of sort of willfulfully concealing evidence. so, you know, going back in front of him is probably not a great thing. if you have concealed evidence, i don't know if the irs would say that they have done that though. >> i don't know people realize the courtroom is just so much different. and sort of dancing around be a and not coming st
the irs chief knew in april. but they basically wanted to just finish the investigation and be able to tell lawmakers in congress everything they knew before they moved on. and so that's why. >> now, the bigger problem here, which people don't realize is it's the judge. it's judge imette sullivan, is he not going to stand for this funny business. not like capitol hill where you sent out a letter and you never get a response or a letter and nobody shows up. judge sullivan has a reputation...
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the irs can't comment on pending litigation. heather, ainsley back to you. >> investigators stepping up their search for evidence on an accused kidnaper's property. they start the this shipping container where tib bee reportedly held abby hernandez captive for nine months. this as it emerged the structure might have had three separate soundproof rooms. officers were off the scene looking at his trailer using bomb disposal gear. they have questions about why she vanished. >> another scare for malaysia airlines avoids colliding with an incoming flight. m h136 was going down the runway in australia when the tower canceled takeoff forcing the plane to slam on the breaks and come to a stop. a plane was coming into the landing on the same flight path. it took off about 25 minutes later with no other issues. >>> check out the cell phone video capturing the huge flames as a fire rips through a home in minnesota. a neighbor said he had a feeling someone was inside that's when he rushed up to the home he saw a young women with a baby girl
the irs can't comment on pending litigation. heather, ainsley back to you. >> investigators stepping up their search for evidence on an accused kidnaper's property. they start the this shipping container where tib bee reportedly held abby hernandez captive for nine months. this as it emerged the structure might have had three separate soundproof rooms. officers were off the scene looking at his trailer using bomb disposal gear. they have questions about why she vanished. >> another...
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the fourth circuit said they would defer to the irs, what the irs said is the meaning of the law is the meaning of the law. >> let me just jump in. this is yet another circumstance where congress failed to say all that much in the law. they said state exchanges. the the irs said don't you worry. they don't mean states, they mean states or the feds. and they're all too happy to start rewriting the law, even though the people's representatives were not there to approve it. >> i agree with the d.c. circuit opinion. i don't see the ambiguity. i find it odd that a line that says that tax credits are linked directly to states with state exchanges is viewed as somehow ambiguous. what happened is this interpretation came out when an unexpected event occurred. when 36 states decided not to create their own exchanges. and that promises a possible exodus and a cascading failure of the aca. and the administration stepped in and avoided it through this interpretation, what's really involved here is, big decisions are really not about health care. they're about how powerful federal agencies have beco
the fourth circuit said they would defer to the irs, what the irs said is the meaning of the law is the meaning of the law. >> let me just jump in. this is yet another circumstance where congress failed to say all that much in the law. they said state exchanges. the the irs said don't you worry. they don't mean states, they mean states or the feds. and they're all too happy to start rewriting the law, even though the people's representatives were not there to approve it. >> i agree...
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the judge ordering the irs to come clean about lois lerner's emails. charles krauthammer is here to talk about that next. >> so i tried depend last weekend. it made the difference between hearing about my daughter's gym meet and being there. yeah!!! nailed it!! unlike the bargain brand, depend® gives you fit-flex™ our best protection. it's a smooth and comfortable fit with more lycra® strands. hi sweetie! get your free sample at depend.com hi sweetie! "i've still got it" when you think aarp, then you don't know "aarp". life reimagined gives you tools and support to get the career you'll love. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities >>> this is a fox news alert. a major court ruling in a case against the irs. federal judge emit sullivan ordering the irs to give a written declaration under oath informing the court what went on with lois lerner's emails. the hearing coming today on judicial watch lawsuit. aims to get documents under the freedom of information act on the irs under the targeting scandal. the irs now has 30 days until augu
the judge ordering the irs to come clean about lois lerner's emails. charles krauthammer is here to talk about that next. >> so i tried depend last weekend. it made the difference between hearing about my daughter's gym meet and being there. yeah!!! nailed it!! unlike the bargain brand, depend® gives you fit-flex™ our best protection. it's a smooth and comfortable fit with more lycra® strands. hi sweetie! get your free sample at depend.com hi sweetie! "i've still got it"...
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obama administration and the irs? >> this has become a side show. if you look at the descriptions coming out of the irs about what happened to the e-mails, first the computer crash then a recycling event. then maybe they were scratched or shattered. i mean, really sounds like a bunch of frat boys a the the bottom of their keg at 2:00 in the morning. john koskinen came in as a clean-up artist, someone with sterling credentials as a management expert and made a fool of himself in these -- in this testimony. at one point early on did not know about the fact that the e-mails were lost. when he later learned, he did not inform congress. today he basically said i don't ask questions about this stuff, i don't look into it. his job -- as steve points out to defend lois lerner and make explanatio explanations. his job is to find out, ask the tough questions and clean it up. that's exactly what he's not doing. >> all right. so charles, here's the question, how many people are paying attention to this? i guess the question is al
obama administration and the irs? >> this has become a side show. if you look at the descriptions coming out of the irs about what happened to the e-mails, first the computer crash then a recycling event. then maybe they were scratched or shattered. i mean, really sounds like a bunch of frat boys a the the bottom of their keg at 2:00 in the morning. john koskinen came in as a clean-up artist, someone with sterling credentials as a management expert and made a fool of himself in these --...
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a major court ruling in a case against the irs. federal judge emit sullivan ordering the irs to give a written declaration under oath informing the court what went on with lois lerner's emails. the hearing coming today on judicial watch lawsuit. aims to get documents under the freedom of information act on the irs under the targeting scandal. the irs now has 30 days until august 10th to respond it's a major development for those of us who want accountability. >> the irs has not dealt with this straight from the beginning junk sullivan was asking do you know if the fbi is investigating, the irs lawyer didn't know. >> what kind of investigation is going on where the fbi won't even talk to the head of the agency that has this kind of stuff going on with their email exchange. >> jim jordan was spot on. >> eric holder is asleep at the switch on this. >> i don't think so. i think is he deliberately blocking it. >> should absolutely be a special prosecutor joining us is charles krauthammer. best selling book things that matter. charles? t
a major court ruling in a case against the irs. federal judge emit sullivan ordering the irs to give a written declaration under oath informing the court what went on with lois lerner's emails. the hearing coming today on judicial watch lawsuit. aims to get documents under the freedom of information act on the irs under the targeting scandal. the irs now has 30 days until august 10th to respond it's a major development for those of us who want accountability. >> the irs has not dealt with...
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person at the irs. she seems very concerned to find out whether the irs' instant messaging, like the top line sort of communications you can have internally, are discoverable. explain. >> well, the irs apparently has this special program that lets officials talk to each other without creating a record. and so lois lerner was asking the tech people, will anybody be able to find these messages i have been sending using this system, and there's an amazing moment where the tech person says they're gone for ever, and her answer is perfect. perfect. there's no way to find these records of lois lerner talking with other irs officials on this instant messaging system about how to target tea party groups. so the records have just vanished, the hard drives have just vanished. it gets more absurd by the day, this irs abuse scandal. >> this happens at the same time that one of the parties is demanding an outside third party forensic examiner be allowe@"re take a look at the computers at the irs and assure the court
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the same due process protections built into the irs enforcement model. some agencies, like the department of education, and federal trade commission have already adopted the practice. epa told us administrative wage garnishment would only apply after the epa attempts to collect delinquent debts through other means. and provide notice through any action the spokesman said, including the opportunity for the debtor to review, contest or enter into a repayment agreement. it also outlines procedures for a hearing at the debtor's request. >> one of the tools of last resort is wage garnishment. what they're doing right now is just complying with that law. >> reporter: critics argue the epa has a track record of mismanagement and bullying. as such, should not be invested with irs style powers. three gop senators have written to epa chief gina mccarthy demanding the rule be withdrawn. >> i think the irs should not, they do have that power and they use it, i do not want that power extended to the epa, specifically when we see the abuse by the epa in this administr
the same due process protections built into the irs enforcement model. some agencies, like the department of education, and federal trade commission have already adopted the practice. epa told us administrative wage garnishment would only apply after the epa attempts to collect delinquent debts through other means. and provide notice through any action the spokesman said, including the opportunity for the debtor to review, contest or enter into a repayment agreement. it also outlines procedures...
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person at the irs. she seems very concerned to find out whether the irs' instant messaging, like the top line sort of communications you can have internally, are discoverable. explain. >> well, the irs apparently has this special program that lets officials talk to each other without creating a record. and so lois lerner was asking the tech people, will anybody be able to find these messages i have been sending using this system, and there's an amazing moment where the tech person says they're gone for ever, and her answer is perfect. perfect. there's no way to find these records of lois lerner talking with other irs officials on this instant messaging system about how to target tea party groups. so the records have just vanished, the hard drives have just vanished. it gets more absurd by the day, this irs abuse scandal. >> this happens at the same time that one of the parties is demanding an outside third party forensic examiner be allowe@"re take a look at the computers at the irs and assure the court
person at the irs. she seems very concerned to find out whether the irs' instant messaging, like the top line sort of communications you can have internally, are discoverable. explain. >> well, the irs apparently has this special program that lets officials talk to each other without creating a record. and so lois lerner was asking the tech people, will anybody be able to find these messages i have been sending using this system, and there's an amazing moment where the tech person says...
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person at the irs. she seems very concerned to find out whether the irs' instant messaging, like the top line sort of communications you can have internally, are discoverable. explain. >> well, the irs apparently has this special program that lets officials talk to each other without creating a record. and so lois lerner was asking the tech people, will anybody be able to find these messages i have been sending using this system, and there's an amazing moment where the tech person says they're gone for ever, and her answer is perfect. perfect. there's no way to find these records of lois lerner talking with other irs officials on this instant messaging system about how to target tea party groups. so the records have just vanished, the hard drives have just vanished. it gets more absurd by the day, this irs abuse scandal. >> this happens at the same time that one of the parties is demanding an outside third party forensic examiner be allowe@"re take a look at the computers at the irs and assure the court
person at the irs. she seems very concerned to find out whether the irs' instant messaging, like the top line sort of communications you can have internally, are discoverable. explain. >> well, the irs apparently has this special program that lets officials talk to each other without creating a record. and so lois lerner was asking the tech people, will anybody be able to find these messages i have been sending using this system, and there's an amazing moment where the tech person says...
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you know she is at the center of the irs targeting scandal. how do you think the media has been covering this story so far? some say it has been largely ignored for political reasons. do you agree? coming up we'll go in depth if the media is really doing their job. 2x the points on streaming movies and takeout from restaurants with my citi thankyou card. everyone wins. you mean you win. yes i do. the citi thankyou preferred card earn two times the thankyou points with no annual fee. to apply, go to citi.com/thankyoucards. jenna: right now a quick look what is still to come this hour of "happening now." could a new obamacare controversy spark a september surprise before the midterm? we'll go in depth. >>> a train derailment sends cars into a river. the what was inside of the cars and why they're trying to fish them out. >>> the dow coming off a record breaking week. is it a rally to be trusted? charlie gasparino on that in a while. >>> new information on growing privacy concerns over little-known surveillance technology that allows police to us
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into the irs' targeting." joining me now, steven, a new letter from issa. bu does it move us forward? >> what it says is we now have as you point out a conflict between the testimony that irs commissioner gave about what the irs procedures are and whether lois lerner followed those procedures and lerner's own attorney says they wasn't aware of those procedures.
into the irs' targeting." joining me now, steven, a new letter from issa. bu does it move us forward? >> what it says is we now have as you point out a conflict between the testimony that irs commissioner gave about what the irs procedures are and whether lois lerner followed those procedures and lerner's own attorney says they wasn't aware of those procedures.